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		<title>Comment on I Care &#8211; The Guardian&#8217;s Line in Concern Porn by Disgraceful attack on those who report child sexual abuse (I Care &#8211; The Guardian&#8217;s Line in Concern Porn) &#124; Tell About Abuse</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Disgraceful attack on those who report child sexual abuse (I Care &#8211; The Guardian&#8217;s Line in Concern Porn) &#124; Tell About Abuse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 20:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] I Care &#8211; The Guardian&#8217;s Line in Concern Porn. [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] I Care &#8211; The Guardian&#8217;s Line in Concern Porn. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>Comment on I Care &#8211; The Guardian&#8217;s Line in Concern Porn by Quiet Riot Girl</title>
		<link>http://graunwatch.wordpress.com/2013/05/15/i-care-the-guardians-line-in-concern-porn/#comment-2146</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Quiet Riot Girl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 12:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[yes ally told me on twitter and in an email, before I wrote this, that he has criticised feminist Graun writers below the line on occasion. He also told me to &#039;do one&#039;. So I did!

I wrote about the Cockburn/Oakley piece when it came out: http://graunwatch.wordpress.com/2011/11/25/whose-masculinity-is-it-anyway/

as for Kira Cochrane, I find it impossible to read her nowadays! But you&#039;re right she is worse on this subject than Mr Fogg]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes ally told me on twitter and in an email, before I wrote this, that he has criticised feminist Graun writers below the line on occasion. He also told me to &#8216;do one&#8217;. So I did!</p>
<p>I wrote about the Cockburn/Oakley piece when it came out: <a href="http://graunwatch.wordpress.com/2011/11/25/whose-masculinity-is-it-anyway/" rel="nofollow">http://graunwatch.wordpress.com/2011/11/25/whose-masculinity-is-it-anyway/</a></p>
<p>as for Kira Cochrane, I find it impossible to read her nowadays! But you&#8217;re right she is worse on this subject than Mr Fogg</p>
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		<title>Comment on I Care &#8211; The Guardian&#8217;s Line in Concern Porn by redpesto</title>
		<link>http://graunwatch.wordpress.com/2013/05/15/i-care-the-guardians-line-in-concern-porn/#comment-2145</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[redpesto]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 12:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think you&#039;ve missed the bigger fish here: Kira Cochrane&#039;s &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/may/09/men-victims-of-male-aggression-speak-up&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&#039;men must speak out&#039;&lt;/A&gt; piece from last week. Not only does she cite the &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/nov/25/dangerous-masculinty-everyone-risk&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;tranwreck piece&lt;/A&gt; that Cockburn and Oakley wrote for Comment is Free (and which, incidentally, Fogg rightly &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://discussion.guardian.co.uk/comment-permalink/13439856&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;criticised&lt;/A&gt; BTL for its sloppy analysis), but most of her article is essentially a &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://decentpedia.blogspot.co.uk/2007/08/will-you-condemn-thon.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&#039;Will-You-Condemn-A-Thon&#039;&lt;/A&gt; demanding that men denounce abuse on feminist terms. Perhaps Cochrane was too busy congratulating herself for noticing that all the abusers she mentioned were men to realise that common human decency might lead men to object to abuse and violence against anyone, adult or child, male or female. Oh, and far from wanting a conversation, the article wasn&#039;t open for comments.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;ve missed the bigger fish here: Kira Cochrane&#8217;s <a HREF="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/may/09/men-victims-of-male-aggression-speak-up" rel="nofollow">&#8216;men must speak out&#8217;</a> piece from last week. Not only does she cite the <a HREF="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/nov/25/dangerous-masculinty-everyone-risk" rel="nofollow">tranwreck piece</a> that Cockburn and Oakley wrote for Comment is Free (and which, incidentally, Fogg rightly <a HREF="http://discussion.guardian.co.uk/comment-permalink/13439856" rel="nofollow">criticised</a> BTL for its sloppy analysis), but most of her article is essentially a <a HREF="http://decentpedia.blogspot.co.uk/2007/08/will-you-condemn-thon.html" rel="nofollow">&#8216;Will-You-Condemn-A-Thon&#8217;</a> demanding that men denounce abuse on feminist terms. Perhaps Cochrane was too busy congratulating herself for noticing that all the abusers she mentioned were men to realise that common human decency might lead men to object to abuse and violence against anyone, adult or child, male or female. Oh, and far from wanting a conversation, the article wasn&#8217;t open for comments.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Charlie Brooker&#8217;s &#8216;Noble Savages&#8217; by I Care &#8211; The Guardian&#8217;s Line in Concern Porn &#124; Guardian Watch</title>
		<link>http://graunwatch.wordpress.com/2012/07/03/charlie-brookers-noble-savages/#comment-2144</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[I Care &#8211; The Guardian&#8217;s Line in Concern Porn &#124; Guardian Watch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 08:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] of an older man and a young girl. As I have said before, a key element of the Guardian&#8217;s concern porn is how it takes &#8216;tabloid&#8217; stories, uses them in exact same way as the tabs do, as [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] of an older man and a young girl. As I have said before, a key element of the Guardian&#8217;s concern porn is how it takes &#8216;tabloid&#8217; stories, uses them in exact same way as the tabs do, as [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>Comment on About by fotl</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fotl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Apr 2013 23:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Cif mods have just had a fairly large purge and are deleting anything that goes against the &#039;normal view&#039; of the vociferous poster. They also seem to be on the lookout for returners by looking at new accounts. They have also purged some good posters, not that I counted myself as one of them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Cif mods have just had a fairly large purge and are deleting anything that goes against the &#8216;normal view&#8217; of the vociferous poster. They also seem to be on the lookout for returners by looking at new accounts. They have also purged some good posters, not that I counted myself as one of them.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Fair Discussion of the Suicide Statistics? By @henrymcg by Henry</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Henry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Mar 2013 11:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your criticism of this piece as slightly &#039;anecdotal&#039; is interesting and I&#039;d like to know what you mean. 

Because the science of psychological gender differences is fogged with political concerns, it&#039;s hard to get a clear picture from all the research. So some of my comments on that subject MAY seem like a shot in the dark -  or more likely, the accusation of believing in old-fashioned gender roles will be thrown my way, as if no further argument were necessary.

Nevertheless, looking at other species, especially primates (our closest relatives), at differences in brain structure and function between the sexes, and at different behaviours that still persist, I think we have to admit that significant gender differences are a much better scientific hypothesis than any blank-slate theory.

I once discussed this with a female psychologist who accepted that there were differences, but waved them away as unimportant - for her everything was secondary to the politics. It&#039;s very common, and one root cause of the problems that I think we agree upon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your criticism of this piece as slightly &#8216;anecdotal&#8217; is interesting and I&#8217;d like to know what you mean. </p>
<p>Because the science of psychological gender differences is fogged with political concerns, it&#8217;s hard to get a clear picture from all the research. So some of my comments on that subject MAY seem like a shot in the dark &#8211;  or more likely, the accusation of believing in old-fashioned gender roles will be thrown my way, as if no further argument were necessary.</p>
<p>Nevertheless, looking at other species, especially primates (our closest relatives), at differences in brain structure and function between the sexes, and at different behaviours that still persist, I think we have to admit that significant gender differences are a much better scientific hypothesis than any blank-slate theory.</p>
<p>I once discussed this with a female psychologist who accepted that there were differences, but waved them away as unimportant &#8211; for her everything was secondary to the politics. It&#8217;s very common, and one root cause of the problems that I think we agree upon.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The History Of One Direction: Volume One* by But @_Markmccormack is Wrong: Homo love in pop music is nothing new &#124; Quiet Riot Girl</title>
		<link>http://graunwatch.wordpress.com/2012/03/07/the-history-of-one-direction-volume-one/#comment-2115</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[But @_Markmccormack is Wrong: Homo love in pop music is nothing new &#124; Quiet Riot Girl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Mar 2013 12:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] -licking recently. You can see the animated gif here.    According to &#8216;gay academic&#8217; Mark Mccormack One Direction are an embodiment of a new, &#8216;inclusive&#8217;, &#8216;softening [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] -licking recently. You can see the animated gif here.    According to &#8216;gay academic&#8217; Mark Mccormack One Direction are an embodiment of a new, &#8216;inclusive&#8217;, &#8216;softening [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on More U-Turns From Suzanne Moore #twitter #digitaldualism by George</title>
		<link>http://graunwatch.wordpress.com/2013/03/13/more-u-turns-from-suzanne-moore-twitter-digitaldualism/#comment-2107</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[George]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Mar 2013 13:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re twitter and it&#039;s propensity to offend the think-skinned, I am reminded of a statement from the blessed Stephen Fry, to wit &#039;So you&#039;re offended, so f*cking what!&#039;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re twitter and it&#8217;s propensity to offend the think-skinned, I am reminded of a statement from the blessed Stephen Fry, to wit &#8216;So you&#8217;re offended, so f*cking what!&#8217;</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Fair Discussion of the Suicide Statistics? By @henrymcg by Francis Fish (@fjfish)</title>
		<link>http://graunwatch.wordpress.com/2013/01/24/a-fair-discussion-of-the-suicide-statistics-by-henry-mcguinness/#comment-2106</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Francis Fish (@fjfish)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 22:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have read that men have more &#039;success&#039; because they tend to mean it, but I think that that is as much stereotyping as anything else. This is a very raw subject for me personally, and I think that targeting help is a good thing to do. There is a disparity, I think, where the feminist agenda has pushed all sorts of funding and help towards women - which I don&#039;t object to at all - and men have been somewhat neglected. But I think the real problem is the original article is largely anecdotal, and (sorry) so is this response.

We need some research done, that hopefully doesn&#039;t have a pre-agreed agenda, to really understand suicide by both genders. If there are differences then we need to find ways that work for both - the &#039;one size fits all because that&#039;s my political agenda&#039; approach is hurting people and not serving anybody. It may well be that the provision for women needs addressing too, but without something solid to draw conclusions from it&#039;s just speculating.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have read that men have more &#8216;success&#8217; because they tend to mean it, but I think that that is as much stereotyping as anything else. This is a very raw subject for me personally, and I think that targeting help is a good thing to do. There is a disparity, I think, where the feminist agenda has pushed all sorts of funding and help towards women &#8211; which I don&#8217;t object to at all &#8211; and men have been somewhat neglected. But I think the real problem is the original article is largely anecdotal, and (sorry) so is this response.</p>
<p>We need some research done, that hopefully doesn&#8217;t have a pre-agreed agenda, to really understand suicide by both genders. If there are differences then we need to find ways that work for both &#8211; the &#8216;one size fits all because that&#8217;s my political agenda&#8217; approach is hurting people and not serving anybody. It may well be that the provision for women needs addressing too, but without something solid to draw conclusions from it&#8217;s just speculating.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Victim Feminism Speaks! by More U-Turns From Suzanne Moore #twitter #digitaldualism &#124; Guardian Watch</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[More U-Turns From Suzanne Moore #twitter #digitaldualism &#124; Guardian Watch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 21:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] she ties herself up in some knots. Usually a major promoter of victim feminism, in which women are presented as helpless damsels at the mercy of those big bad wolves, men, Moore [...]]]></description>
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